A Christian state
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“This is where freedom of religion means freedom to be Christian.”

On the ten commandment stone tablets outside of the Texas state capital in Austin.

I’m fucking sick of this. This shit is HORRIBLY offensive to anyone who isn’t Christian. Our government says we have freedom of religion, yet sanctions shit like this? It’s blatantly shoving a Christian state on us. Look, I don’t care if your morality is governed by Christianity. Mine isn’t. And our laws shouldn’t be either.

I don’t fucking want “I am the lord your god…” being held up as a pinnacle of lawmaking. I don’t believe in god, and I don’t like being told to shut up and just accept the message of Christianity, as if its the only way to have morals. I don’t like being told that I shouldn’t be offended; That its not a big deal; That the ten commandments are something that “we can all agree upon.” No it’s not.

Placing these tablets there, right outside of the capital building, sends the message loud and clear: “If you are not Christian, you are not welcome here.” Well I’m not fucking having it.

 

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6 Responses to A Christian state
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  1. anon says:

    amen brotha’

  2. Feliz says:

    Well where else do you get morality from? There is not one logical pattern that can discern all moral codes that seem to be the going norm right now which have been serving us pretty well the past centuries. Don’t be Christian that is fine but remove it just to make you happy then another becomes unhappy. One can not deny the Historical Fact that this country was formulated by enlarge by Christian values maybe you would like it better is Iraq! Don’t like this country move. But that is just my opinion, or you could search yourself and ask why? Why do I not believe in Jesus Christ? Then hmm……Christ Peace be with you.

    • angry says:

      My morality comes from a thing called empathy. You dont need god to understand the golden rule. And I dont really feel that it HAS been serving us well for the last few centuries… Thats the same moral code that has endorsed slavery, stoning, women as property, discrimination, condemnation of gays etc.

      Also your historical fact is mistaken. Many of the founding fathers rejected traditional christianity. Regardless of where their morality came from or if they were christian or not, they founded this country on the basis of freedom of religion. It was written in to the constitution. So my point wasn’t that it would make people unhappy to remove the statue, its that it should never have been up there in the first place.

      And telling me to move (to iraq) is a bullshit argument. I love this country. It just has problems that need fixing. I enjoy the freedom the US offers and want to see it extended.

      Its also pretty arrogant to suggest I haven’t thought long and hard about why I dont believe in god/jesus. Why is the onus on me when you just expect that you dont have to justify your beliefs? I have thought about it. I dont believe in god because there is absolutely no evidence to support the existence of such a being.

    • Nathan says:

      “By enlarge” … do you mean “by and large?” (One of the many of the intelligence indicators strewn about your argument.)

      You need to spend a little less time defending your absurd ancient mythology and a little more time studying the English language if you plan on eloquently debating the topic. Your run-on sentences nicely mask any logical point you were attempting to make.

      I base my faith on the things I encounter and experience daily. Not thrice-translated ancient texts written by desert people.

  3. Sophia says:

    ‘thrice-translated ancient texts written by desert people’ wow. It’d be nice to talk about how ancient texts were translated and how methodical and important that practice was, but not with that response. desert people??

    I can understand why you’re offended by Christian symbols/messages strewn in front of state/federal buildings if you aren’t a Christian, but you could also see this structure as a piece of history and appreciate it for that. I don’t think it in any way is forced upon whoever’s reading it or is implying a Christians-only sentiment. If you read the bottom it mentions the FOE, which still exists today and has members all over the US. If you can’t see the ten commandments as a universal code of morals, that’s your opinion, but I don’t see the placement of this as anything more than a historical landmark.

  4. Allen says:

    It’s hard to see the ten commandments as universal when 40% of them are about the exclusivity of christianity.

    I think constant inclusion in a christian culture must acclimate christians to the christians-only rhetoric of their religion. “I am the lord thy god. Thou shalt have no other gods before me”. Especially if you know that in exodus or deuteronomy there follows threats against you and your children, grand-children, great-grandchildren, and great-great grandchildren for failing to comply. It really baffles me how often I hear “but how is that in any way a christians-only sentiment?”

    As said earlier- empathy provides a fine basis for morality. The world is undeniably a nicer place to be when people are kind and generous to each other. You don’t need heaven and hell to want this world to be a good place.

    This country was founded on the practical philosophy of men like Thomas Paine, and was so far removed from “christian values” that it established the first amendment to the constitution. Advocating that someone leave the country for the middle east if they want to live in a nation where one religion doesn’t dominate the political discourse is the highest irony. Like it or not, a lot of atheists are Americans too, and have every bit as much right to be here as you do. This is our country too, and you can’t steal it from us just because we don’t agree with you. What’s more, this country was founded as a radical experiment against tradition, and that has been one of its’ most successful characteristics- to be American is to ask what makes sense and is fair, and to try to do that. Ancestor-worship and blind obedience are unamerican activities.

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